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Indicator relay - how to kill it and compatibility

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I managed to knacker the wiring on my left front indicator (don't ask, I can be a chump in the garage).

 

I could have soldered the wiring but had an unopened box of four after market OEM pattern indicators which I'd bought for just these situations. However, when unpacked, these had three wires with bullet connectors instead of the two wires (green and orange) on the original. I imagine the wiring could have been modified (and will check how sometime) but I hate electrics and went for a new indicator with the proper wiring and orange connector.

 

Burnt out fuse replaced and indicator connected up. Still nothing. I followed the instructions in the workshop manual to check the indicator relay connector for power and continuity. The result was pointing to a dead relay (the other possibility was that there was a break in the ground wire somewhere but thinking about that option brought me out in a cold sweat). Years back when I'd managed to short the wiring on the rear indicators (again, don't ask), I'd lazily shoved a 15A fuse in the 10A slot because that's all I had at the time and then forgot about it. I imagine the overload knackered the relay before the 15A fuse gave out.

 

Anyway, easy enough to get a 2nd hand relay I thought. Not a chance. You would think that simple gadgets like this would be the same as the Blackbird but Honda was obviously messing with us when it put the X together. So, how much for a new one...around £60 from Lings and Fowlers (and on back order too). Cheaper at CSMNL but post-Brexit there are now higher postage costs. Cheapo one for £11 from eBay? Mmm...could be okay but looks a bit ropey and always a bit worried about plugging something cheaply made into the harness. 

 

Lucky to have a very good local used parts supplier and took my dead relay in. The knowledgeable guy who runs the place was surprised to find nothing in his numerous boxes of Honda indicator relays which was an exact match. Honda, you're such a laugh. Anyway he sold me for a bargain price another Honda one after checking compatibility as the wattage range was different; off a CBR600 I think. A little smaller than the original but  works fine on first fitting just blinks ever so slightly slower. Fingers crossed.

 

Just be helpful, CSMNL has a compatibility list for the relay part number 38301-MR7-004...

 

FITS MODELS

CB1100SF X11 2000 (Y) ENGLAND

CB1100SF X11 2000 (Y) EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB1100SF X11 2000 (Y) FRANCE 100

CB1100SF X11 2001 (1) ENGLAND

CB1100SF X11 2001 (1) EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB1100SF X11 2001 (1) FRANCE 100

CB250F HORNET 1996 (T) JAPAN MC31-100-105

CB250F HORNET 1997 (V) JAPAN MC31-110

CB250F HORNET 1999 (X) JAPAN MC31-115

CB250F HORNET 2000 (Y) JAPAN MC31-120

CB250F HORNET 2001 (1) JAPAN MC31-125

CB250F HORNET 2003 (3) JAPAN MC31-130

CB250F HORNET 2006 (6) JAPAN MC31-140

CB250F HORNET 2007 (7) JAPAN MC31-150

CB400F SUPER FOUR TYPE II 1992 (N) JAPAN NC31-100

CB400F SUPER FOUR TYPE II 1994 (R) JAPAN NC31-120

CB400F SUPER FOUR TYPE II 1995 (S) JAPAN NC31-130

CB400F SUPER FOUR TYPE II 1996 (T) JAPAN NC31-140

CB400F SUPER FOUR TYPE II 1997 (V) JAPAN NC31-150

CB400F SUPER FOUR VERSIONR TYPE III 1995 (S) JAPAN NC31-135

CB400F SUPER FOUR VERSIONS TYPE III 1996 (T) JAPAN NC31-145

CB400F SUPER FOUR VERSIONS TYPE III 1997 (V) JAPAN NC31-155

CB400SF SUPER FOUR 1999 (X) JAPAN NC39-100

CB400SF SUPER FOUR 2000 (Y) JAPAN NC39-101

CB400SF SUPER FOUR 2001 (1) JAPAN NC39-102

CB400SF SUPER FOUR 2002 (2) JAPAN NC39-103

CB400SF SUPER FOUR 2003 (3) JAPAN NC39-104

CBR250RR MC22 1990 (L) JAPAN

CBR250RR MC22 1992 (N) JAPAN

CBR400RR 1990 (L) JAPANESE DOMESTIC / NC29-100

CBR400RR 1992 (N) JAPANESE DOMESTIC / NC29-105

CBR400RR 1994 (R) JAPANESE DOMESTIC / NC29-110

CBR400RR1994 (R) JAPANESE DOMESTIC / NC29-110 TYPE 2

NR750 1992 (N) JAPAN RC40-100

NR750 TYPE II 1992 (N) JAPAN RC40-100

NSR250R 1994 (R) JAPAN

NSR250R2 1994 (R) JAPAN

NSR250R2 1996 (T) JAPAN

NSR250R3 1994 (R) JAPAN MC28-100

NSR250R3 1995 (S) JAPAN MC28-110

NSR250R3 1996 (T) JAPAN MC28-120

RVF400R 1994 (R) JAPAN NC35-100

RVF400R 1996 (T) JAPAN NC35-110

RVF400RR *Rr-II NC35 JAPANESE DOMESTIC

RVF400RT *Rt-II NC35 JAPANESE DOMESTIC

VFR400R3 1989 (K) JAPAN NC30-100

VFR400R3 1990 (L) JAPAN NC30-105

VFR400R3 1992 (N) JAPAN NC30-110

VFR750R RC30 1988 (J) AUSTRALIA

VFR750R RC30 1988 (J) NEW ZEALAND

VFR750R RC30 1989 (K) AUSTRALIA

VTR250 2003 (3) JAPAN MC33-102

VTR250 2005 (5) JAPAN MC33-110

VTR250 2007 (7) JAPAN MC33-120

This product fits to 54 models.

 

As you can probably tell, most of the these bikes are not that common. A quick search on eBay will produce a list of bikes which the cheapo relay I mentioned earlier also fits. This should give you a rough idea of what other 3 pin relays might be compatible for the X11 if you want to give an alternative, used OEM part a go before shelling out £60 for a new one.

 

After all that waffle, the real moral of the story, is don't knacker your indicator wiring by being cack handed and don't stick a 15A fuse in a 10A slot and forget about, it will bite you in the bum at some point. My simple aim to become less of a garage chump as the years go by.

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Glad it's sorted, now get out and enjoy the rides.

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If you can find 1 the MITSUBA FR -3314 is the same as original 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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