Guest Gean

Wheel alignment.......

28 posts in this topic

Would anybody know how to adjust a bikes wheel alignment ?? Can it be done ??

0

Share this post


Link to post

You can ensure the rear wheel tracks the front correctly by using the adjusters on each side of the rear wheel. Best to use a straight edge placed on each side of the rear wheel... you then make sure the gap is the same on both sides of the front wheel.

If you need to adjust the track of the front wheel.... then something is bent! Get your bike on a jig at a specialists.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Gean are you sure the forks arn't twisted in the yokes? If it is,it's simple to sort.I did mine when i got knocked off it.does'nt take much to twist them slightley.Other things could be bent wheel spindles,subframe,swingarm or even a buckled wheel.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Thanks guys.............the main problem I have is when I coast in neutral you cant take your hands off the steering..........the bike pulls left.........and not a little bit either !!

0

Share this post


Link to post

If you have checked your rear wheel is aligned with the front checked that the forks are not twisted in the yokes, then I would suggest that your frame may be twisted after your off. I doubt that your forks will be bent if they slide free with no tight spots, for a quick and crude check, remove them and take springs out, so there is no resistance, then steadily slide them up and down. Unfortunatly the only way to check your frame is to find someone who has a frame Jig to check it, however iI would guess they are more rare than moon dust in your part of the world.

0

Share this post


Link to post

No...........this was before the off in Namibia ( just rode it above 80 & below 200 )...........I changed the head race bearings, tyres & had the shocks redone and from there on when you hit 180 - 200 it had a head shake like a cow with mad cows disease...........in the mean time I have fitted different tyres and did 20 different things to the shocks ( more & less oil........different spacers etc ) and I just cant get it to run straight at low speed or stop shaking at high speed. Rims have been redone etc and rear wheel is dead straight in swing arm. The head race bearings are the taper roller type though but apparently it has been done before with no bad effect. I was told I made it too tight so I loosened it.........then I was told their too loose so I tightened them again so you could hardly move the bars..........it made no damn difference...............have run out of ideas here !!

0

Share this post


Link to post

Did you know the bike`s history before you bought it? maybe it had been damaged before you got it. sounds a silly but have you also checked the engine mounts are torqued to spec? As the engine is a stressed member in the frame and provides rigidity.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Just looked in Honda Shop manual... For the issue you have it lists, Unevenly adjusted left and right fork legs, Bent fork,Bent Axle, wheel installed incorectly, Faulty head race bearings, Bent frame, Worn wheel bearings and Worn swingarm pivot components.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Have had the bike for three years.........never gave me trouble at high speed at all.........going to replace the head race bearings again with original ball type........did check your list Chris..........nothing there unusual..........bike only had cosmetic damage and this problem originated before fall after new tyres, shocks done and head race bearings were done for trip.........this SUCKS !!

0

Share this post


Link to post

Can understand your frustration gean,sounds daft but have you checked your front tyre isn't egged on one side? Even a wheel balance weight could be the culprit.I had one fall off my cbr's front wheel once and the bars shuddered quite violently at 100+mph.Costs hardly anything to take your wheel to a tyre shop and have it checked.Sorry but that's all i can think of that's not been mentioned.

Good luck with it.;)

ps.Just a thought,but have you checked the front left calliper isn't sticking bad and pulling the bike that way? It could be sticking on since the bikes been laid up for a while.Worth a check.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Okay.............forks reset and bike pulling straight at low speeds..........high speed still a major problem.........at 180 the bike starts jiggling and at 200 you crap yourself..........adjusted the forks up and down last night with absolute no difference..........only thing it can be now is those tapper head race bearings !!

0

Share this post


Link to post

converted that means at 112mph and 125mph

sounds more engine to me

don't forget the engine is designed to be 'unbalanced' at 5500rpm

due to the natural smoothness of the engine - (honda speak)

road camber?, chain tight-spots? 4into1 exhaust?(weight to one side)

presume the wheels spin free when on axle stands?

hope you sort it.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Cats.........what you smoking ?? :P

Been visiting Eddy again ??

Just kidding.............thanks for all the advise guys..........have elimated all but the head race bearings I fitted, maybe the tapper roller ones change the head or steering angle or something !!

Regards

Gean

0

Share this post


Link to post

Taper roller bearings fitted tomine April 2006 are ok! but you never can tell yours may be the cause of your judder?

Do I recall you got shortened fork springs b4 your accident? Memory is going must be my age!

0

Share this post


Link to post

Hi Andy

I actually fitted the tapper rollers because I heard you had it done with success..........only three things changed before the crap started.........fitted the bearings........changed the tyres..........had the shocks done !!

Have changed the tyres since ( after rims redone in case the fall damaged them ) from Pilot Powers to Pilot 2CT to Bridgestone Battle Axe's to eliminate them, even dropped tyre pressure front & rear from 3bar to 1bar just to test.

Then removed shocks.........more oil.........less oil.........more spacers less spacers..........then dropped them 5/10/15 mm through top brace to see if it made a difference.........nothing ........nada.........zilch !!

Then set rear shock all the way up & all the way down.........same thing !!

If the shake appeared after the fall I can understand it completely...........but this is really pissing me off now.........

One thing someone mentioned was to check the shock internals..........but could the internals cause this ?? It doesnt develop into a fullblown tankslapper but even if you accelarate it just gets worse........only slowing down to 180 stops it and then it feels like the front wheel is floating on the ground that gets upset by the smallest bump in the road..............hitting a catseye now is a major thing at 180 !!

Hopefully somebody can figure it out..........I bluddy cant

0

Share this post


Link to post

Gean you could always swap the staunchions and damper units over to the oposite sides.

It isn't something simple like wheel spacers on wrong side ?.

0

Share this post


Link to post

Sounds silly,and i'm clutching at straws but is the front tyre on the right way?

0

Share this post


Link to post

Rae.............may be I should fit the tyre the wrong way around and see if it makes a difference...........head race bearings removed..........no fault found........damn !!

Fitting original ones tonight.........hold thumbs !!

0

Share this post


Link to post

Have you double checked that the right amount of fork oil is in and the right weight as you said you had your suspension rebuilt. have you checked your swingarm bearings? you may think it is silly but just becasue the front end is giving trouble it does not mean that the problem is at the front.

0

Share this post


Link to post

un-f@cking

BELIEVEABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fitted original ball type head bearings and took it for ride.............265km/h and not a wiggle or jiggle in sight..............perfect like it was.............why the tapper rollers made such a difference I have no idea but after changing everything else with no results it just seems impossible.........what worried me the most was the fact that the tapper rollers were perfect when I took them out...........BIG RESULT........BIG HAPPINESS.........the X is back in all its glory.............now I'm gonna get shit faced !!

0

Share this post


Link to post
un-f@cking

BELIEVEABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fitted original ball type head bearings and took it for ride.............265km/h and not a wiggle or jiggle in sight..............perfect like it was.............why the tapper rollers made such a difference I have no idea but after changing everything else with no results it just seems impossible.........what worried me the most was the fact that the tapper rollers were perfect when I took them out...........BIG RESULT........BIG HAPPINESS.........the X is back in all its glory.............now I'm gonna get shit faced !!

haven't a clue what they are, what they do, or what you are talking about.

I'm just an x11 user, and glad to hear your nursin' a hang-over and will be

using the x in it's glory!

B R A V O !

ps. can you explain what tapper rollers are and where your balls are now?:iamwithstupid:

0

Share this post


Link to post

Wahey!! result. Nice one gean,glad you sorted it:niceone:

0

Share this post


Link to post

Here you go Cats

See pics,

1st Taper roller type brg

2nd Ball type brg

0

Share this post


Link to post

These allow the wheel to spin?

Looking at the two designs I would think that the

tapper's are dirrectional, being cylidrical,

but the ball-type would roll in any direction

so, if the tapper's are slightly 'out' in any way or not

allowed to roll in the exact direction they were made to,

this may come out in vibration?

With the ball-type, I would imagine there is a 'forgiving' factor

if anything is slightly out.

0

Share this post


Link to post

The ball type pictured are incorrect..........the outer roller cages are loose from the ball cage..........

0

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now